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Electrified Circuits
Fault Line Industries
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:14:00 -
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Forgive me if that hasn't been asked already i couldn't find anything on the forums other than Taus reply that the new crius baste waste is:
=BaseMaterial*(1-ME BP %)/0.9
When i put this into my spreadsheet am i supposed to round/rounddown or up?
The results im getting are different for what is showing on this website:
http://bp.kiwi.frubar.net/calc/ when i enter Nidhogger for crius model at 9% ME
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Electrified Circuits
Fault Line Industries
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
17
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:22:00 -
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Wow thats a big blow to myself, I'm an entry level cap builder as ive only played the game for a year i bought all the BPOs from NPCs and researched them to about 2/1
The components were easy to max out for the 10/10 switch over.
Making money isn't a problem but it looks like people like myself are completely blanked out of the cap scene if we are meant to take such a huge profit loss. Or I could be wrong and thinking most cap builders didnt bother to get 10 anyway so we are all in the same boat. That i am happier with
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Electrified Circuits
Fault Line Industries
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
17
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:33:00 -
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No waste is still an integral part of construction.
They just removed the complex formula and put in a simple one (which has caused some issues with extreme cases like cap building)
They put extra materials into the main cost and ME research on Blueprints is now what determines your effeciency, with the removal of production efficiency skill.
Other factors like building at a pos or nullsec station can affect ME. If im right in thinking an ME 9 Archon will behave like a perfect when used at a nullsec station with the material modifier, which does shed some light on the situation |
Electrified Circuits
Fault Line Industries
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
17
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:51:00 -
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I checked some numbers again if you are running the BPO at an amarr station that has a 2% material reduction (sounds like a little amount doesnt it) but the BPO at me 8 is near perfect in returns. This will only take 6weeks to research at a pos and even less if you have better facilities, so not all doom and gloom you just need access to good facilities |
Electrified Circuits
Fault Line Industries
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
17
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Posted - 2014.07.16 22:19:00 -
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Yeah guess im lucky we live on a max lvl amarr which is 5% reduction time to move to nullsec i guess lol. I'll be importing my ore compressed if thats the case will just need to train my alts to be able to fly the caps out to lowsec |
Electrified Circuits
Fault Line Industries
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
17
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Posted - 2014.07.16 22:28:00 -
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good point, still it makes sense for me to produce components and finished product in nullsec if i can do it with a minimally researched cap bpo. The numbers balance out for both.
Ideal profit is only seen when you are making at max researched capital in low sec but that could take a long time to get to 10 |
Electrified Circuits
Fault Line Industries
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
17
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Posted - 2014.07.16 23:55:00 -
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Thx for clearing that up Tau i'm suspect of the website too as it doesnt show any workings out so i'm using the formula you wrote with the material modifier for making in station with great results. |
Electrified Circuits
Fault Line Industries
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
17
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Posted - 2014.07.19 02:15:00 -
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Ok Q thanks for the info and i get what your saying but i do believe an amarr upgrade will lower costs even if bpo is me 9% as it applies to the whole ship not just the components you build. When i factored in both of these it was pretty much same build cost for building everything at nullsec station compared to thukker and low sec constructions.
Im going to have a play on sisi anyway now its finally back up |
Electrified Circuits
Fault Line Industries
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
17
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Posted - 2014.07.19 13:00:00 -
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Yes after trying things on the sisi server, there seems no reason to construct capitals in nullsec (for profit at least) They will be continued to be made in lowsec for the most part even with a max upgraded amarr station which is very costly the profits are much better with thukker and pos array |
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